Restrictions on coming to France

Hi Johnboy - as I understand it, the ban is not on Brits themselves, but on travel between the two countries. I see no reason why your daughter should be denied entry from Spain. Hope it goes well for her.

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It is hardly rampant in France compared to plague island and the measures now in place will hopefully slow the rate it progresses.
Things like facemasks use here compared to the measures implemented once the horse had bolted in the UK, populace density spread over a bigger area, hopefully will help, the longer the rate of spread is controlled gives the chance of more people being given their booster jabs the better.

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Yes I agree that the French have been more sensible with facemasks and you’re right that the slower the spread, the less pressure there will be on hospitals.

However, with UK arrivals subject to pre and post departure testing there is just no sense in banning travel between the UK and France. The number of infections caused through people arriving from the UK will be miniscule compared with the natural rate of infections within France.

The travel ban is way out of proportion and will make no difference to the spread of Omicron in France.

Another thing - I saw my GP today for the 3rd jab and he told me that he’s been seeing people all week with common cold symptoms who then tested +ve for Covid. When we chatted about the situation in the UK he said that they have much better tracking of the different variants over there than the French do.

It looks rather like Omicron is well established here, even if there is less ā€˜hard evidence’ of this…

ā€˜No taxation without representation’ was one of the cornerstones of the American Revolution, that didn’t make it into its French counterpart. We non-French, non EU residents of France pay taxes here, but cannot vote in national nor in European elections.

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Couldn’t agree more.

There was a disturbing article in this morning’s Midi-Libre which said that 30% of the current ICU cases in Nice hospitals, were not only not vaccinated, but had fake Covid passes. On Wednesday evening we spent a lovely evening ina crowded resto in central Toulouse where the staff correctly check all passes before entering the building, inside one felt safe because the regs were being observed, but now one thinks what if the people on the next table had fake passes.

The solipsistic behaviour of people with fake passes not only threatens their own health, but could threaten trust in the existing anti-Covid regs. On the other hand (that’s five now!) this could even be an intentional strategy by some militant anti-vaxers.

Which is presumably why tonight’s announcement was about clamping down on passes. Up to now people could get a pass 15 days after having had Covid, but without a vaccination. No more. And they are going after the fakers heavily with jail terms.

This is not relevant to the thread but since you raise it I will just say that I do not entirely agree. For the first few years that I worked and paid taxes in France I had very little understanding of how France operated. I think it is necessary for voters to understand a country in order to be able to vote in its best interests.
There is a saying, before you take down a fence you need to know why it was put up. As a new immigrant in France I would probably have voted to dismantle all kinds of protections and rules that initially seemed cumbersome and unnecessary to me coming as I did from the UK.

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No they aren’t.

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As an Austrian national I also don’t have a vote in UK general elections.

Interesting, but if that criterion was applicable to the UK electorate, the majority would become disenfranchised!

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52% of those misguided and juped people voted in 2016

I’ve just had a message from a friend … he’s furious at France for stopping folk entering from UK… yet in an earlier message the day before, he told me that 4 of his family were ill with covid (including him).

Beggars belief that he feels France is wrong to try and stem the transmission…

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Well I will make no comment!
But I suppose it is ā€œtheirā€ country so what can you say.
On the other hand I imagine that quite a number of the Brits who arrived in France to beat Brexit are still at the stage of asking where they can find an English speaking doctor and dentist and how the interfaces with the various French administrations work. Granted they may have paid their first taxes here but I do not think they can reasonably be expected to have been following the debate between Macron, Zemmour, PƩcresse, Le Pen etc, and forming an opinion on whose policies would best serve France in the face of the problems it is currently facing and the root causes of those problems.
Perhaps they would vote against Macron because he has restricted tourist travel from the UK!

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Is he for real ?! Sounds like a right shellfish tw@t :thinking:

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ā€œshame on Macronā€, do me a favour 🤦

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I’ve known him since he was a Cub and I was his Akela ( a lifetime ago)… he was a thoughtful and caring lad…
but I’ve obviously been in France and away from him, for far too long…

Now, as an adult he’s changed completely.

I’m having to think of how to word my reply to him… :roll_eyes:

Unfortunately many people have been completely sucked in by the far right narrative in the UK. Some of my friends and colleagues went the same way.

I wonder why people think they should be able to travel freely wherever and whenever they like, even in a global pandemic.