Satellite TV

This is what I bought. Is there anyone who can tell me what the flashing lights are at the bottom and what they mean, also what they would do with the thing to find a dot in the sky with? :roll_eyes:

https://www.amazon.fr/-/en/dp/B01M61TNAZ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

They’ve not made it very obvious by having two LEDs marked “H” there, have they?

V (13V) - RED LED - lights to show sat receiver is tuning for a Vertically polarised channel

L (0kHz) - GRN LED - lights to show sat receiver is tuning for a Low frequency band channel

H (18V) - RED LED - lights to show sat receiver is tuning for a Horizontally polarised channel

H (22kHz) - GRN LED - lights to show sat receiver is tuning for a High frequency band channel

Only one RED and one GRN LED should be lit for any given channel as Polarisation is either Vertical or Horizontal and Frequency band can be either Low or High.

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Would you have vertical or horizontal with a satelite receiver? I get it for terestrial aerials.

Thanks, I’ll give it another go later, or possibly tomorrow, as with me such things seem to take hours not minutes. :laughing:

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Yes, because it allows two separate channels to be transmitted on each frequency, one horizontally polarised and one vertically.

This is why LNB skew angle is important as you’re aligning the LNB to the satellite constellation.

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So 3 things, not 2, to juggle?
So if I do the vertical first it is the V RED which I should be watching then?

You really need to use dishpointer.com to find out the deviation from magnetic south for your location, it won’t be 5 degrees. You also need to find the elevation angle from there as well. I took advantage of the video you posted of your near miss in the car yesterday to make a not of the GPS coordinates, assuming it was near your home, and put that into dishpointer.com . It said elevation of 37.3° and an azimuth of 186.6° which is 6.6° west of south. Another advantage of dishpointer.com is that it overlays a line onto a map. You can zoom in and move the origin on the map accurately so that it’s exactly where your dish is. You can then zoom back out and see if that line goes through any feature you can see when standing next to the dish. If so, you can use the feature to quite accurately align the azimuth of the dish. Otherwise you need to set it initially using a compass, which won’t be very accurate. Your dish will have a scale stamped on the bracket behind the dish where you adjust the elevation that you can use to set the elevation angle approximately.

Once you’ve done this, the fun starts as it would be a miracle if you got a signal straight away. This is what I do. First, set the slider on the side all the way in the + direction. Then, with the azimuth clamped so it can’t move, move the elevation up at least a few degrees in small steps and listen for a beep from the box. If you don’t get one, move it a couple of degrees south of your original starting point in the sme manner. If you still don’t get a signal then move the elevation back to where you started, loosen the azimuth and move it a small amount in one direction, clamp it and then go back to fiddling with the elevation. You vet the idea.
Once you get a signal, it gets a lot easier. You can turn down the volume on the detector so it’s just audible and then fiddle with the azimuth and elevation in very small steps to get a stronger signal. Repeat this until you bet the maximum signal. Then tighten everything carefully and you’re finished.

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The LEDs should only change if you move channel on the sat box to one with different polarisation and/or frequency band to the one you started with.

V Red = Vertical

H Red = Horizontal

You don’t need to know about vertical/horizontal. That just shows what the box is selecting and isn’t important to align a dish.
One thing I forgot in my earlier treatise is that the LNB skew should probably be set as well. There will be a scale on the LNB itself to help. Your skew will be around 6° clockwise from vertical when looking from the front of the dish. To be honest such a small skew probably won’t give a big difference in your signal so you can skip this if you want.

Edit: Skew is actually anti-clockwise from the front for you.

I’ve found the Satellite Pointer app on my iThing and a long spirit level a fast was to get the azimuth close.

Only works if you have both hands free or a glamorous assistant.

Only if there’s no ferrous metal in your spirit level🤭.

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All very confusing. Firstly though, the location of that near miss yesterday is almost exactly 1 km in a direct line SW of my house.

Where I am at the moment on the finder.
A constant red light on on the far left V(13v)
73 to the left, a high signal bar and the 2 green lights alternating.
When the far right one H(22kHZ) is on there is a beeping sound.

Where does all that leave me.? And does my exact location alter your assertion of the elevation and azimuth you posted above?

BTW, as it is the Eutelsat 5wa I am searching for does that make any difference to the above.
I was searching fo 30 elevation and 5 west of south. Was I wrong then?

I tried downloading dishpointer.com yesterday but got confused as it seemed to be giving me conflicting instructions.

The markings of elevation on this brand new dish bracket is so faint as to be totally unreadable.

Downloading ? It’s just a website. Put in your GPS coordinates in the left hand box, select the 5.1W satellite from the right pulldown menu as below then hit ‘Search’.

You get a map showing your location with a line. You can move the start point by clicking and dragging it with your mouse. All the details you need are on the right hand side below the picture. You can see that the GPS coordinates on your film are very accurate.

That’s good. Only one should be on and it should be constant,

A bit strange. It seems to be reading and displaying the level of the 22 KHz signal. This is a low frequency signal sent to the LNB by the STB that is used to switch bands between low and high. What we want it to do is measure the level of the satellite signal. When you hear the beeping, is there a symbol above the ‘73’ which says ‘22k’ with a circle around it ? When there is no beeping, is there a symbol that says ‘0Hz’ with a circle around it ? Unfortunately, I don’t have the manual so don’t know how this particular box works.

I’ve found the instructions online and it suggests that after connecting the meter up, you should first turn the ‘volume’ down until the meter reads about 10%. It’s not what I do, but some reviews on Amazon say that it’s very important that you follow the instructions carefully.

That’s what I did to start with, as close to 10 as possible, then following the instructions took it to as near 50 as possible

Yes there is a 22k in a circle above the 73 or so at the moment.

The 2 green ones are alternating but with the RH one for longer than the other and that’s when it beeps.

The 22k symbol in the circle disappears, leaving blank, when the RH green is not flashing.

Tried again but there is no pull down menu only an install button which yet again led me to download something completely different. Worrying me now.

Ah, so you started at 10, and by moving the dish got it to 50. So not sure where did the 73 come from ? Does it show ‘73’ when it beeps and '50 when it doesn’t ?

So, if you just type ‘dishpointer.com’ into the browser it asks you to download something ?. What does it do if you say no ?

I was instructed to get up to as near to 50 as possible, and that is where it settled.
Not sure but I think the 73 or thereabouts is constant, the little wheel is impossibly sensitive.