With gas guzzlers, i refer to the parliamentary vehicles. They sure as hell dont drive around in electric Zoe’s I was around when the Greens started life in Germany and what a sight they were with Petra Kelly and Joschka Fischer et al, when they became more established they changed their ideas and were quite happy to ride in the then big Mercs and Beemers instead of the bicycles.
So trying to keep our planet habitable for future generations is lunacy?
Not all of us are so selfish as to think that.
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It will be habitable when we are all gone and forgotten about. Nothing selfish about it all. It is down to each and everyone of us to be mindfull about our consumption and way of life, which unfortunately in the last 30 years or so hasnt been the case. Does transporting oil from the middle east when there is plentiful supplies off the coast of the uk or transporting LNG from the US all in dirty diesel burning ships when again there is supplies under our very feet sound green to you, it doesnt to me. And the list goes on.
That change change is greatly affected by acts of mankind is now scientifically undeniable.
Without human induced climate change these heat events would however have been extremely rare.
Unless the world rapidly stops burning fossil fuels, these events will become even more common and the world will experience heatwaves that are even hotter and longer-lasting. A heatwave like the recent ones would occur every 2-5 years in a world that is 2°C warmer than the preindustrial climate.
Add to heatwaves, drought, cold spells and flooding and we will see radically increased social suffering and migration.
Some can still argue all they want but facts are facts.
But because humans are continuing to burn fossil fuels and put extra greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, the odds will continue to tip in extreme heat’s favour: even if we stop, temperatures will not cool again, they will just stop rising.
Friederike Otto, senior lecturer in climate science at Imperial College London and co-founder of World Weather Attribution told the Guardian.
Looks a tad churlish to complain about the young persons of Just Stop Oil protesting to protect their future.
Not by us, that is the point. We are accelerating our own demise as a species & those not prepared to act against the human made climate crisis should be considered as selfish.
We need to get more people to really understand the dire situation we are now in. Sadly there are too many vested interests involved, so obfuscation abounds.
It certainly isn’t, but burning ANY fossil fuel is not green either.
The ridiculous statement by Grant Shapps that the UK should “max out” it’s extraction from the North Sea is as ignorant as it is reckless.
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Don’t know if you know about the confusion surrounding his death, but if you don’t I hope when you come to it, you’ll find it blackly amusing…
I do, and I do. 
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I recommend Armando Ianucci’s excellent film The Death Of Stalin for those who’d like to see a dramatic interpretation based on facts…
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I recommend ‘Carry On, Don’t Lose Your Head ‘ for a good laugh.
Seen it, absolutely first class. 
Just updating my reading on the thread and saw your query - it was a larger than expected drop in UK inflation, so UK interest rates now expected not to peak at 6.5%.
From PSL - “The peak in Bank Rate is now expected at around 5.8%, down from +6.5% at one point earlier in July. The downdraught in expectations has weighed on UK bond yields, a key driver of capital flows that can impact the value of the Pound.”
Or TorFX -
https://news.torfx.com/post/2023-07-19_pound-us-dollar-crashes-uk-inflation-weakens-boe-rate-bets/
There was also a previous issue with the US inflation going to 3% - seems UK ‘real’ returns are then less…
GBP then went up again when I think various euro inflation things happened - dovish expectations and also a boost to UK retail - presumably hinting that the UK is not a total basket case after all.
Continues to rise today… make your bets!
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Wrongly. I read the Tory leaflets falsely claimed everyone would have to pay, not just the biggest car polluters. And look, the point is hundreds of people I think die from pollution, and surely that can’t just continue? And there’s a scrappage scheme - so the political argument is surely about whether that is generous enough, not whether these people dying is quite alright because someone wants to drive to work or the shops in their old car.
Labour didn’t advance these arguments though, and need to learn the lesson. Andrew Rawnsley wrote quite a good analysis of the issue at the weekend I thought, attached - guessing you might like to read it.
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