So, what’s the fascination?

Ah, profuse apologies.

An easy mistake to make considering they are in Somerset :wink:

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Quite!

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Wait until the liebour party rule the roost, then all their misdemeanors will come to light.
If there was a total (heavens forbid) green party govt, you would be screaming for the lying conniving corrupt parties to come back.

I see the campaigning has already begun.
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Whatever that party’s past, Brown was a pretty straight PM compared to his predecessor, but all that was long ago. In the years since the one UK politician who’s taken lying to Trumpian heights has been a Tory, -Boris ‘Porky’ Johnson, £350 million a week for the NHS. Party? What party? I believe it was well within the rules - nothing to see here… (Not!)

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I certainly would not be doing that, so please don’t tell me that I would.

Anyway, better government can only be achieved through the consensus that having a proportionally representative administration would require. Green Party politicians have shown themselves to be very good at that in the many UK local councils that they have an every growing presence in.

Their reason for needing to work towards consensus is that they are the only party that truly puts the climate crisis front & centre rather than as a few badly thought through blot-on policies that only get wheeled out when there’s a sniff of an extra few votes in it.

Neither major party has the bravery & radical approach required to address the environmental disaster that is already with us. They are too concerned with short term polices, which is forced on them by an archaic electoral system.

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While I tend to agree, they were dumped out of Brighton & Hove city council in pretty extraordinary way. Largest party and minority control (having had majority control in the past) to 7 councillors, one more than the tories and we can all imagine how popular the tories are there. All that with a long term and incredibly popular Brighton Pavilion MP in Caroline. I don’t think it can be underestimated just how badly they messed up, both the council leader and deputy were ousted. Much of it entirely of their own making too, this wasn’t some case of them taking the fall for central government decisions.

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Not disagreeing with your post, but if you’ve got the time, I, and I assume others, would be grateful for some specific egs.

As always, be careful what you wish for. I have just started reading Simon Sebag Montifiore’s book ‘Stalin, the Court of the Red Czar’, and only a few pages in am transfixed by the awfulness of the man.

His ‘cabinet’ lived in dread of being invited to dinner knowing that they would be there all night barely able to walk to their cars bloated and pissed out of their brains in the morning. As Kruschev once remarked in the car home to Bulganin (remember B&K?) ‘it’s all very well but we never know when its over if we are going home or to prison’. :rofl:

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The Russians ought ti read up on Roman history. Quite apart from the eye opening sociopolitical shenanigans, they would have learned the little trick of knocking back a shot glass of olive oil before a banquet helped to slow absorption.
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Sadly even this can be corrupted, wasn’t it on a background of PR that the “National Socialists” were elected in Germany?

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He terrorised people to the point that they aren’t actually sure when he died, it could have been at any stage over 4 or 5 days, nobody dared to go into the sickroom for fear of being accused of something. :scream:

at what? Inventing a system that has existed for over 30 years, see DRS, close down coal mines and nuclear plants in Germany. Why dont the Greens take the Gretas of this world and the just stop oil and ER swivels and go to china or india to protest. Look at the green pushed agenda in Holland with the farmers. If this lunacy continues you wont be able to own a horse due to the farts from it . But they will continue to cruise around in their gas guzzlers. And we the folks who pay their obnoxious salaries will be relegated to shanks pony. As uncle klaus says “we will own nowt and be happy”

A bit like Putin then

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It seems to be coming back into fashion

Who is Uncle Klaus?

The boss dictator of the WEF

But the WEF doesn’t have any executive power, does it? The current president is some Scandi person, Norwegian I think. I know quite a few Green politicians in France and here (I’m in Germany right now) and not one of them drives a gas guzzler.

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Openly no, but just look who are members or who goes to the meetings every year, that should tell you what global power they have through indoctination. Yes you are correct some Bjorg or something. Klaus Schwab is the executive president.