It does feel like S&M 
you have to be so careful when you try to influence your party. Imagine trying to explain it to Diane Abbott!
It’s a failure of analysis Paul. The Labour right, locked inside both ideological distortion and reliance on focus groups and other superficial survey data, think that the loss of seats like the ‘red wall’ was down to the Brexit and Corbyn factors - but mainly Brexit since even the most purblind politician has to nod to the huge pro-Labour swing under Corbyn in 2017.
Trouble is, this analysis doesn’t fit the facts (which do not include focus-group and opinion-survey results, since there is plentiful evidence that in these situations people frequently repeat what hey have heard in the media, not what they really feel). In fact, the loss of these seats is just a step in a long-term decline in the Labour vote in most of these places, ultimately shaped by long-term economic changes.
Labour support here was shaped by workplace politics - but as Piketty memorably demonstrated, capital has shifted from entrepreneurs to rentiers - recently abetted by quantitative easing etc - moving exploitation out of the workplace into finance: debt, rents, etc. So the former industrial seats have been changed by a double-whammy: loss of workplace labour organisation and movement of exploitation from collective into personal finance arrangements. In this context - capitalism now - the older debt-free home-owner even if they used to be a miner or whatever, is not at the sharp end of exploitation - but the 20-something child of a teacher might well be.
Piketty’s analysis absolutely implies the radicalisation of new, especially younger populations, and de-radicalisation of the older comparatively asset-rich, whatever their roots. But since the Labour right can’t see this, they think they will achieve popularity by aligning themselves with superficial focus-group opinions on relatively ephemeral issues like brexit.
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You can’t help but wonder if the EU are secretly delighted that at long last they have rid themselves of Farrage Widecombe et al and the other wingeing nutters who believe UK superiority and world dominance. De Gaulle was absolutely correct, Le brittanique were just unworthy of the privilege…
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There seems to be an ignorance of the bleedin obvious, if you ain’t in power you’re wasting your time which is why Starmer is playing the long game. It would’ve been easy for him to order his MP’s to abstain but what would that have achieved, much better to show acceptance of Brexit and let Johnson take the s**t if things turn sour yet be ready to pick up the pieces in 2024.
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I think Starmer’s best position might have been not to whip the party at all but to leave it to individual Labour MP’s to make their own minds up.
Yes, Johnson’s 80 seat majority means that Starmer could do little to block the deal and, yes, he needs to play the long game - but his present stance is barely to criticize the deal at all and that, together with his support, which makes it harder (indeed impossible) to point out its shortcomings at a later date.
Presumably he calculates that, as history blamed Blair for Iraq and not the many Tories who voted in support the shit will cling to Johnson’s fur over Brexit and he will come out clean - but it is a bit of a dangerous gamble when he seems to have offered no resistance now.
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It’s always one bloody rule for them isn’t it?
Is he eligible, just because his mother was French?
don’t think it works like that in France as it does for the Irish Paul… if that’s any consolation 
Looks like it might
Parentage to the parent from whom the French nationality is claimed, must be established while the child is still a minor (under 18).
was this done?
No idea
I don’t really see the problem, Johnson Snr voted Remain and is pro-EU so why shouldn’t he apply for French nationality if he’s eligible?
No, it’s just irksome that money and privilege always seems to find a way to be untouched in a way that isn’t open to the rank and file.
It is, at least, less offensive than Lawson applying for a CdS.
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You mean he was privileged to have a French mother. 
I have no doubt other means could be found 
To be clear, I’m just jealous - if I though I could dig out a family member who gave me the right to an EU passport I would, but sadly, I can’t (not can I afford to buy my way in).
Just another non mask wearing, wife beater in France, whats new.
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His initial response to the deal was this. Much firmer and putting responsibility on the Tories.
Izzy x
Not one wod of which talks about working to improve the deal.
Read the D Mail piece…I made an exception as I despise its stance…but we do need more toilet paper so any spare copies please send me…address can be supplied on request !!!