We are in the processing of completing the declaration preable in relation to building a shed and swimming pool.
Is anyone able to advise me:
The size of the proposed shed is 20 sq m - does this fall within the rules for using this form or do we need to drop it below 20 sq m even if just a few centimetres?
Do we have to pay a one off tax for the shed and if so how is it calculated, or do we have to pay a tax every year on the shed, and again if so, how is it calculated?
Same questions in relation to the swimming pool. How much is the cost of gaining the declaration preable and how much is the annual taxâŠWe are thinking of an in ground pool of about 50 sq m.
From memory it was added to the habitation (or fonciĂšre). The fisc are very demanding - you improve your property at no additional cost to anybody but yourself, and they whack on some extra tax.
As said. Your mairie will advise, itâs what theyâre there for.
A new pool will increase your own individual property tax. Itâs not like a flat rate âpool taxâ that is the same for everyone. So not possible to give you a figure.
Thank you Anna. I think I am really asking if you have to go on paying a tax on a garden outbuilding year after year - or it if is just a one off âplanning applicationâ fee ?
The Mairie is vague just saying âoh itâs not muchâ big laughâŠ!
Must be very frustrating indeed⊠and not much good.
Obviously you need to speak/mail with the person who actually knows the subject and the details involvedâŠ
I would send an email to the Mairie, asking them to tell me (politely) who can deal with my enquiry. (I take no prisoners if I feel folk are waffling at me⊠)
You need to know the specifications allowed for each of your projects and the taxes etc which will become due⊠as well as the proper forms to complete asking for permission etc etc etcâŠ
Itâs nothing secret⊠the information should be made availableâŠ
(our Mairie deals with emails from across the world as we have quite an international population for second homes etc⊠)
Anything over 18 sq M will require planning permission, which is expensive and a pain. Unless you really, really, need the extra 2 sqm, suggest you alter your plans to 18 sqm. you donât have to have full 3-view plans either, just a drawing or photo of a similar edifice. The tax on 18 sq m is a one-off âŹ50. Someone will come round long after youâve completed it and make sure it is the right size. Do you intend to install power ? I did but, err, forgot to tick the box on the form. Iâm advised the french usually build their shed and then submit the form later, but I guess we Brits should do things by the book âŠ
If only that was true!
I have just had a veranda of 17.5 m2 installed. I had to present full architects drawings and the tax dâamenagement comes in at âŹ450
How very odd. I built my Abris (6x3M) after submitting both the form and a nice colour impression of the finished item (which I filched from the internet and then fiddled with), started building a month later sans any demur from the Mairie, then a guy came round some weeks later, didnât even speak to me, measured the shed, and then a few weeks later I got a bill for âŹ50. All done. I thought the 18sq m limit applied both to sheds and to extensions. Although I seem to remember that that has been increased for small extensions. ?? I know a friend had a similar experience where his local Maire seemingly had a personal beef and insisted on planning permission and associated costs for a 18qm breeze block shed. At the time our own Maire was very laid back and basically let you build what you liked. Sadly he has now been replaced and Iâve no idea what the new one is like vis-a-vis sheds, etc.
We did in fact call the tax office about this as the Marie could not really help.
They said that the there were no specific rules about the size and we would only know the cost once the plans had been submittedâŠ!
But from what you are saying, nationally anything of 18 sq m or less should only attract a âŹ50 âplanning application feeâ and then nothing more - but if you step over 18 sq m then who knows the consequences !!!
I donât know what the âŹ50 fee is called, perhaps âWe-have-to-charge-something fee, because we always doâ.
Incidentally, up to 5sqM no paperwork is required at all, so (being silly) you could build dozens of <5sq M sheds - one for each function - one for garden tools, one for chicken feed, etc etc.
flartybarty: @flartybarty I donât know what the âŹ50 fee is called, perhaps âWe-have-to-charge-something fee, because we always doâ.
Incidentally, up to 5sqM no paperwork is required at all, so (being silly) you could build dozens of <5sq M sheds - one for each function - one for garden tools, one for chicken feed, etc etc.
Please be careful everyone⊠there is a form to be completed when you build whatever (more or less). (eg: there is the form which simply tells the Mairie and Powers that Be⊠that such and such is going to be built but needs no special permission and that still needs to be done and received by the Mairied)âŠNothing should be undertaken without first checking which forms need to be completed and doing sameâŠ
It would be unwise to imagine that you can simply go ahead⊠please contact your Mairie by email or telephone at the moment (with the current restrictions)⊠and they will advise the course of action to be takenâŠ