The Benefits of Vaccination (with thread drift...)

If duped is the right (best) word.

A few posts back I mentioned I had read through the Pfizer contract…

I have yet to see this reach any mainstream news and it’s one of those subjects you would think journalists would be interested in…either to verify or debunk…

More has come to light since this international security expert first wrote about it (including a digital signature on one country’s agreement)…and then got banned off Twitter…

It seems very unfair and one sided and gives Pfizer the rights to a country’s assets…embassy and military bases etc in the event of non payment…

“ “Arbitration and governing laws: Arbitration must be done in New York, in according to Rules of Arbitration of the International Chamber of Commerce, governed by the laws of the State of New York, USA:”

Its no different to how America treats the rest of the world, giving money and then re building with a McD’s on every other corner and KFC in between then a few Starbucks in between. Thats if they dont invent WMD’s first and bomb the crap out of your country first.

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Tells you all you need to know about AFD -

All the more reason to support the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

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Once again American Frontline Doctors are not anti vaccine…they are though concerned about the covid 19 “vaccines”…

As for the Pfizer contracts highlighted in this particular video interview…in what universe can anyone ever think it’s ok for a pharmaceutical corporation (which has been fined billions in the past for unsafe products) to be able to take a country’s assets such as military bases as collateral for non payment…???

A member of Parliament in the Netherlands has a list of questions for their health minister…

(I have listened to a translation but so far only have an article in Dutch…)

I think you need to give your head a shake Helen as this is getting desperate, the FvD are a right-wing, anti-vax political party who’s leader refused to get tested for Covid even after displaying symptoms and coming into close contact with others who tested positive.

Interestingly they are not only anti-vax but also climate change deniers.

“Forum zet ook in op klimaatscepticisme en ontkent de wetenschappelijke consensus aangaande klimaatverandering.[76] Baudet stelde dat het klimaatakkoord de Nederlandse burger 1000 miljard euro zou gaan kosten,[77] terwijl andere berekeningen op een lager bedrag uitkomen.[78]”

Rough translation is that they are climate sceptics and they deny scientific consensus around climate change. They have also inflated the cost of measures to tackle climate change when these costs are compared to other calculations.

@Helen6 I don’t deny that the vaccine can cause serious side effects for some but so many of your sources turn out to be mendacious populists. Speaking of lower vibrations (you mentioned this previously regarding bringing the political into the pandemic) could you not weed these out?

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The Guardian: Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine: rare blood clot syndrome has high mortality rate.

Headlines like that are what start scare stories and misinformation, as there are a great many who will not go on to read the whole article, in which it states that this reaction is extremely rare and having Covid is much more dangerous to life.

Sod the scientific consensus - half the bloomin’ planet is on fire. Does that not filter through to their closed minds (I know the answer to this, of course).

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Probably not until they have either run from fire or been flooded.

The ash cloud should block some of the sun’s rays.

I guess it is a bit like those people dying of Covid who deny it exists.

But on a more positive note I was having a chat with my nonagerian Brexiteer friend (these chats can get quite lively :laughing:) and she surprised me by having changed her mind and pronouncing that Greta Thunberg was right all along on climate change.

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I find “Chucky” quite frightening even when she isnt talking about the climate.

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Your not the only one :astonished::smiley:

It seems quite difficult at the moment purely because OF the far left far right divide :grinning:

The MP in the Netherlands has a list of 30 questions for their health minister to do with the totally one sided no liability Pfizer contract…no parliamentary scrutiny…and safety and efficacy…

American Front Line Doctors are not associated with the Netherlands MP…they interviewed the security expert who first found the Pfizer contract for Albania…different countries are paying different prices and Israel somehow managed to agree to pay 5 times more per shot than any other country and are subject to the “confidentiality agreement” for 30 years when everywhere else is 10 years…Israel has already started the third shot/booster and already got breakthroughs amongst the triply vaccinated…more of the same is not necessarily the right approach…

@Jane_Williamson I don’t know anyone who only reads a headline and forms a conclusion from it…this is the guardian and I’m actually glad to see the acknowledgement of blood clots…(I personally read everything there is to read and everything there is to listen to whatever I personally think of the presenter of the information)

The leader of the Oxford/ AstraZeneca team himself has just said we’re not going to reach “herd immunity” with the current approach…

It’s time to accept that the “covid vaccines” are not working and more boosters are not going to make it so…

There are no trials to date that indicate how any of the “covid vaccines” interact with any other vaccines or the flu vaccine…

We need a strategy of early treatment for the vaccinated who are still getting covid…early treatment and prophylaxis for the unvaccinated most at risk…the elderly the obese and the immunodeficient…and acknowledgement of robust and durable natural immunity…there is a four fold increase of serious outcomes in those who have had and recovered from the natural infection who are subsequently pressurised into taking a shot to keep their job…

And I’m sincerely hoping that some of these repurposed therapeutics will also help the vaccine injured and those suffering long covid…

One of the nurses in our small circle who didn’t want the vaccine but was pressurised into getting double jabbed can no longer feel her hands…she’s been off sick for weeks…her and her husband have both contracted covid despite being double jabbed and both are really ill…the kids are fine…I know this is anecdotal but the district nurses who are all double vaccinated are really struggling to cover their rounds and to quote several of them “there is just so much sickness amongst their team”

I am amazed at all these unlucky unhealthy people you know Helen, of the couple of hundred people I know personally and see regularly who have had 2 jabs, including me, not one has had more than a slightly achy arm for 24 hours tops.

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That is an extraordinary thing to say when the vaccines have undoubtedly saved 0000’s of lives and prevented health services all over the world from being overwhelmed.

At an early stage it was recognised that Covid-19 would be with us for years and that the only way to keep it in check was through an annual vaccination just like the flu jab which people have happily accepted for decades.

I do wish you would desist with the ‘anti-vax’ barrage as most of what you write is just plain wrong, I recognise that there are often risks with taking any medication but with regards to this virus having the vaccine is a risk worth taking.

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Earth to Helen6

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