The Benefits of Vaccination (with thread drift...)

Ok I’m finding that comical for some reason but it’s late and I need to let the gang out for a last wee…

Love you all :heart:

That’s handy as I woke up with covid shoulder this morning. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Any thoughts on this…???

“ World Health Organization European Advisory Group of Experts in Immunization former Vice President Professor Christian Perronne yesterday said that all vaccinated people must quarantine over the winter months or risk serious illness.

Perronne specializes in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. He was Chairman of the Specialized Committee on Communicable Diseases of the High Council of Public Health.

Confirming the rapidly deteriorating situation in Israel and the UK, the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.”

He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others. It’s proven in Israel now – I’m in contact with many physicians in Israel – they’re having big problems, severe cases in the hospitals are among vaccinated people, and in UK also, you have the larger vaccination program and also there are problems.”

The guy was sacked and discredited Helen, why should people listen to what he has to say and more worrying believe him over anyone else?

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You won’t have covid shoulder tomorrow :smiley: it will be disseminated throughout your body, you will probably be magnetic etc and able to tune in to any radio signal, open the motorway and métro toll gates without paying, switch appliances on at a distance and talk directly to Bill Gates :grin:

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I had muted this thread (personally)… but feel that it is worth sharing this article in today’s Sud Ouest.
clearly explains the “workings” of vaccines re ARN/DNA… fascinating.

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This is a short snippet of the US congress asking the Dr about his envolvement in gain of function of virus research in Wuhan.

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Yes I watched that live…Del The Highwire and ICAN had lots of emails released under their FOIA request and many were redacted…they persevered and asked for unredacted versions…one unredacted email just granted shows very clearly that the secret discussion was about gain of function bat coronavirus virus…so not wet markets or pangolins…

It backs up what I watched some time ago as reviewed by 2 professors of virology who said the odds of nature combining in a way that leaves animals including apes and monkeys, our nearest relatives un touched whilst going through the human population like wildfire.
Cant wait for the world to sue America!

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Have you ever heard of Dr David Martin…he’s a patent lawyer (anti-trust?) and was early on asked by someone high up to look into the patents and his clear cut evidence was never used…

Do you think its the current American administration should be sued or should it be both America and China…???

Many of the whistleblowers and the investigators are American…:thinking:

Or should it just be the NIH and Fauci who has control of billions in research financing and anyone daring to speak out is likely to have their research grants stopped…???

I just asked what people thought Tim I wasn’t endorsing what was said…

But against that we have Walensky in USA now talking about serious disease in the vaccinated when 5 days ago she was maintaining this was a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”

We have the numbers from Israel and third boosters already leading to a rise in deaths…

Listen I sincerely hope that EVERYONE stays well whatever their choice and I sincerely hope that we are not seeing antibody dependent enhancement…pathogenic priming…vaccine enhanced disease…

The day that it became taboo and fact checked and criticised and mocked to talk about natural immunity…the day that informed consent was overridden by force and threats and coercion whilst still under an EUA was the day that those labelled as “vaccine hesitant” lost all faith in public health institutions…

Not what I have seen, the death rate is increasing as the double vaccine antibodies are losing their effect.
Same for many older UK folk just as we go into autumn and the flu season could have an effect. Around 4 months seems to be about it from Tim Spectors data of real people.
I will have no antibodies by end of September but a Prof said the body still remembers although it doesnt show in a test so can produce the T cells if required.

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Yes double vaccine antibodies are waning and ADE presents a potential risk at that point (hopefully not though…I really really hope not because I do care about everyone) …yes I think our T-cells…memory cells are really important and that’s why I would like to see a readily available simple blood serum test for everyone vaccinated or not…pcr tests are flawed)

Antibodies are part of our immune story but not the whole story…the focus on just one “hair” of the spike protein was maybe not the best idea when a natural infection and recovery gives lasting and durable immunity to the whole virus…(people recovered from SARS 1 still have memory cells that recognise SARS Cov 2…)

Long live your T-cells :heart:

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This has to be a parody, I hope.

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Not a parody, just plain incorrect.

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Yes, but is it incorrect because it is parody of extreme anti-vax/anti-government/the vaccine was artificiality produced views or because of those views genuinely held. It can be difficult to tell sometimes.

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Benefits of Vaccination:
Latest weekly report:
8 times less likely to catch covid… :+1:
11 times less likely to end up in intensive care… :+1:

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I can take my daughter and dad out for a slap up Sunday lunch today to celebrate his 82nd birthday in a couple of days.

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Oh, that will be lovely for all of you… :hugs:

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Have a lovely time.

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