I hope you all have a have a wonderful day!
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Read the whole thingā¦ itās really interesting and informativeā¦ France has no intention of vaccinating the under 12s ā¦ at the moment.
"With the emergence of Delta, the American laboratories Pfizer and Moderna have launched clinical studies for children under 12, currently in phases 2 and 3 (dosage and tolerance). The first results are expected at the end of the year at the earliest and the authorizations for use, not before 2022.
For the little ones, āwe will necessarily be more demanding because the Covid infection is less dangerous than for adults,ā said Antoine Flahault who is in favor of it while judging that the most urgent thing is to strengthen prevention in the schools."
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From Alexandra Petri in the Washington Postā¦ a lighter take on the news of the day.
The Pfizer vaccine is FDA-approved, so whatās your new excuse?
- The only way I can tell whether a drug is safe to take is if my friend Gary tries it and posts on Facebook about it, and he hasnāt yet.
- FDA approval could mean anything!
- Iām mad the FDA made a point of telling me I wasnāt a horse or cow and I thus shouldnāt take Ivermectin dewormer, so now Iām going to ignore the Pfizer news! And take some Ivermectin!
- Out of an abundance of caution I am going to attend medical school for three years, become a doctor and then see whether I agree with what the FDA says.
- I know I kept clamouring for FDA approval, but this feels too sudden. I think Iād better keep waiting, just in case. No need to rush things.
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Which Pfizer product is being distributed in Europeā¦???
ā While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age groupā
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/
āChildrenās Health Defense is an American activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine activities and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines.
It was founded and is chaired by Robert F. Kennedy Jr, established under the name World Mercury Project in 2016, it has been campaigning against various public health programs, such as vaccination and fluoridation of drinking water.
The group has been contributing to vaccine hesitancy in the United States, encouraging citizens and legislators to support anti-vaccine regulations and legislation.
Arguments against vaccination are contradicted by overwhelming scientific consensus about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.ā
I think I will pass on most things from the CHD thanks.
And thatās your prerogative and free will choiceā¦
But as always I would like someone to actually dispute the evidence as presentedā¦
There is disputing the evidence and ignoring it and making it up as you go along 
Like the various regulatory health agencies you meanā¦???
Very early on in this thread I was challenged about all these so called āvaccinesā being under emergency use authorisation only but I knew that was the case because of CHDā¦I also knew that various studies hadnāt been done and indeed now some are ongoing not just until 2022/2023ā¦now some trials are set to run until 2025ā¦
I was also the first here to mention the contracts Pfizer has with various countries around the world and I noticed today that the guardian mentioned itā¦
ā While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age groupā
Has this been licenced and gained approval in Europe for 12-15 year olds or is Europe still under the EUAā¦???
Peter Doshi BMJ
So all those millions and millions of people that have been vaccinated, didnāt need to be and none would have died without the vaccination program.
I take it in your opinion the vaccinations have saved nobody and natural and herd immunity would have saved everyone then, the whole epedemic is just some made up grand conspiracy by governments for some higher purpose and everyone that has died has done so out of spite 
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I donāt want to go round and round in circles with you Griff or anyone hereā¦just want to keep the situation current and open and transparent as we all work our way through thisā¦
Just take 8 minutes to read through Peter Doshiās editorial and follow links which admittedly may take more than 8 minutesā¦
ā Waning efficacy has the potential to be far more than a minor inconvenience; it can dramatically change the risk-benefit calculus. And whatever its causeāintrinsic properties of the vaccine, the circulation of new variants, some combination of the two, or something elseāthe bottom line is that vaccines need to be effective.
Until new clinical trials demonstrate that boosters increase efficacy above 50%, without increasing serious adverse events, it is unclear whether the 2-dose series would even meet the FDAās approval standard at six or nine months.
@Helen6, can I just ask a basic question - do you believe vaccinations have saved 0000ās of lives?
Iām not against vaccination per seā¦though there have been many āmistakesā made before and other pharmaceuticals and medical appliances withdrawn and some vaccines withdrawn after only 25 deathsā¦
The safety signals within the reporting systems (such as they are) are signalling more death and serious adverse events than all vaccines combined over the last 30 years which canāt be accounted for by number of other vaccines given v number of covid vaccines givenā¦
The 1 dose recipients in hospital with serious adverse events are being counted in the unvaccinated columns as completely unvaccinatedā¦
Some commentators in USA see the U.K. data as more transparent and many commentators are seriously worried about the Israel dataā¦
Would it not benefit everyone to see open and transparent discussion on a mainstream channel between those who are currently suppressed and deplatformed and those in mainstream media pushing the vaccines because they are financed to do soā¦???
Is that a definite yes to my question?
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Lol youāre so persistent 
I would have to answer that in some cases maybeā¦
In some cases no as they have been withdrawn after unacceptable harm
In this case we are on an unknown trajectory and all deserve fully informed consent and no mandates
To me that reads as āthe juryās still outā despite all the evidence to the contrary.
The worldwide evidence is showing a waning of protection after 6 to 8 months against disease and transmission ā¦double vaccinated in Israel shows waning down to 39% and the vaccinated still with an increase of high viral load and still capable of transmissionā¦
39% would not ordinarily gain full approvalā¦
At the same time other studies are showing that those recovered from natural infection have lasting and durable immunityā¦