Like Cat I have come across no one who has suffered any long term effects from the vaccination and I have worked in some huge factories around the world that have had 400 to 900 employees.
The effects and deaths from the virus are another story though, I have lost a lot of close friends and colleagues 
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weâd block the internet if everyone came on to share the good newsâŠ
I will just say that I know folk in my commune who have died from covid and I only know of one person who had a âbad reactionâ to the vax (felt decidedly offâŠ) and that only lasted about 4 daysâŠ
Vaccination is the pathway through this whole covid thing⊠no doubt in my mind.
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Had the AZ, 1st dose at the end of February. Slaughtered for 2.5 days with flu like symptoms but sweating and shivering alternately and profusely. Spent the whole time in bed. Really made me doubt having the 2nd shot but Tim Spectors website said when that happens the second shot doesnât seem to cause problems. That was correct, 2nd shot in May went without issue.
AZ first dose, headache next morning. AZ second dose, no effects whatsoever. I know no-one who has anything but the usual tender arm and short-lived flu-like symptoms. Three cheers for the vaccines!
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Similar to others posting above, I know of no-one who has had more than a sore arm or brief flu-like symptoms. Thatâs not just family and friends but also the slimming group I belong to and my work colleagues at the several schools in the trust I work for (about 300 or so colleagues).
I do, however, know people who have been seriously ill and also died from Covid and some who are suffering from long-Covid, one of whom has been unwell for about 15 months.
Some people have tested positive since being vaccinated (which is expected as none of the vaccines are 100% effective) but none have even had symptoms which is an incredible step forward.
What was worrying towards the end of last term was the number of students (all unvaccinated, of course) becoming ill with Covid and some serious enough to keep them in bed for several days, particularly the year 10âs and upward. This does not bode well for the new term starting in a week or so.
Izzy x
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So Iâm going to reference the British Medical Journal again hereâŠ
Is there no one here just a bit disappointed that a booster seems to be required less than a year laterâŠ6 to 8 months laterâŠ??? Fauci in USA talking about 5 monthsâŠhow about 4 monthsâŠ???
Vaccine efficacy now waned to 39% or 17% against a strain that is no longer dominantâŠwhen anything under 50% would never have met the regulatory criteria required for approvalâŠ
Basically no, if it helps me or my loved ones/ relations/ friends/ or anyone else from suffering the worst effects or dying from the virus, it is a truly terrible thing if anyone does suffer bad side effects, but it happens with absolutely every medication/vaccine, none are truly, totally safe for everyone, but for the vast majority it has been safe and has stopped millions more from dying.
If it is to be an annual vaccination like the flue jab, I basically could not give a monkeyâs âŠ,
So far bar yourself, just about no one has had/heard of anyone suffer because of the vaccination.
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12-18 age is 60% vaccinated this rentrée though? Might leave the concern just with children younger than 12.
I had tummy symptoms 2nd dose of Pfizer. It kept me in for 4 days (and could have been partially caused by the heat), but would I do it again? H*ll yes.
I am absolutely certain we will identify problems with the vaccines longerterm. But faced with the rate of death in the population pre-vaccination, refusing what might get us all out of this just didnât stand up mathematically as an option.
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Sorry, Iâm in the UK. Should probably have started my post with that 
Izzy x
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I was the exact opposite. First AZ was fine, not even any arm ache. Second jab put me in bed for 2 days, started about 24 hours after the jab.
I have a very large extended family over 4 generations. AFAIK, every one of them has been double jabbed and none of them have had any more than I had as far as side effects. Even my sister in law, who is anti vax, eventually got jabbed because all her children and grandchildren were jabbed. She basically did it for the family, despite her reservations.
Exactly, not being selfish and thinking of others.
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Benefit of vaccination - not being this guy:
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Too many stories like this. Young people dying because they havenât got the vaccine. Really tragic. Letâs hope this will encourage other vaccine sceptics to get the vaccination.
Izzy x
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Its Darwinian theory.
Planets overcrowdedâŠ
@Helen6 what do you think of this report?
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@billybutcher @IzzyM Keep it positive ! These are tragic stories but are thankfully in very small number. Most people are getting vaccinated.
For a potentially more scientific view on things. New Scientist reviews the performance and other data for the vaccines used today. Something I didnât know (thereâs a lot I donât know!) is that some 130+ vaccines were in development with some the ones we know ready sooner. Of all those others some donât have great performance and itâs expected that others will be approved. These ones having in some cases the advantage of âvariantâ tuning. As far as the article goes itâs a good thing to have more solutions out there. Also if you had Astra Zeneca you can happy to know it is developed from the chimpanzee cold virus.
The UK government has abrogated responsibility, 1st vaccinations running at only 40k per day.
OK, most adults are now vaccinated but the kids arenât and numbers are climbing steadily even before they get back to school. Also, letâs not forget that first among incompetents Johnson has said heâs happy with 50k deaths a year.
Meanwhile France has overtaken the UK in number of vaccinations - and numbers are falling, so thereâs that, I suppose.
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Thanos had a point - discuss.
I donât know what to make of it reallyâŠ