The Queen tests positive for Covid- update

Sometimes its much better to pause before posting.
There are hundreds of thousands who were inconvenienced by covid and sadly now dont have the opportunity of continuing thier lives, dead and gone.

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Yes and just as many who die prematurely every day. But covid stats entered peoples minds on every broadcast everyday so hardly surprising the focus. What about all the othet killers that dwarf the covid stats doesnt anyone give a care about those and change their lives?

Be careful what you wish for. My OH and I have both just had it. We assume Omicron. It’s really not the cold like virus it’s said to be. Neither of us needed medical attention but it is really not nice. We’re both testing negative now for some time now but feeling exhausted, run down and tearful and he still has a dreadful cough. If you do get it I hope it’s not too bad, but I wouldn’t wish even this milder variant on anyone.

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Yes Corona whilst I admire your courage (and you generally) you’ve been a bit too b*llsy on this particular topic.

Plenty of young supremely fit people changed their tune in ICU according to enough reports. And a number recanted but it was too late for them.

I wouldn’t tempt fate with whatever you’ve got left. Putin may be along soon to help out anyone that wants to live dangerously.

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Great news is you now have an extremely good immunity which should last you a fairly long time. Anyone who has suffered from real flu, not the Man type :joy: would also have suffered and often for considerably longer. Omicron, the vaccine man failed to make!

I seriously question their real fitness, my friend (65yrs) who contracted the early strain delta most likely, is unhealthy, very over weight, high blood pressure, T2 diabetic, sleep apnea etc etc didnt go to hospital and was poorly for 7-8 days and fatigued for a couple more, the chap he caught it from is a strapping young man in his 30’s a gym bunny who is fitness mad was laid up for over a month and in hospital for a week.

As for Putin, dont waste money on a trial in the Hague, tie him between 4 of his tanks and pull!

As you say convenient :wink:, I know you keep on saying about everyone you know that has had a fantastic time with covid, as Johnboy says many others haven’t and are not around to tell the tale.
While you like to gloss over the millions that have died with this and covids continuing effects, you might have a cavalier attitude to it, but many countless families haven’t had your luck, there are still 2000 people dying a day in the US ffs.

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Fitness or lack thereof may be a double edged sword. Someone who is fitter will likely tolerate oxygen deprivation longer and have a more resilient frame than an unfit and blubbery individual. At the same time they may mount a much stronger immune response that that will result in the so-called cytokine storm that leads to organ failure and death. There will also likely be a considerable effect from genetic disposition to succumbing from the infection, with some individuals much more susceptible to a lethal outcome than others.

:roll_eyes:

FWIW the vaccines do produce a neutralising response to the virus, but just like our immune response to the natural infection, the response is not sterilising and repeat infections are likely on repeat exposure. If you have the natural disease you can catch it again. I really don’t see an advantage to infection over vaccination other than bragging rights.

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There’s possibly a genetic element to this : Covid-19 : les secrets de ceux qui rĂ©sistent au virus

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I do hope so, though I have heard reports of people getting it more than once
anyway good luck with it whether you get it or not.

The hope is with the greater number of spike proteins on omicron over vaccine or earlier variants the bodies immune system can see it sooner and mount the attack earlier lessening any severity. The vaccine does a good job of lessening the symptoms already but those who have caught it twice or more were including earlier variants which are from a different strain and more harmful to a lot of people. Training the immune system to respond to attack from virus’s is the aim of all vaccines?

And to you and everyone else. The good thing is its unlikely to do you really bad harm.

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Great name for a band :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Unless you happen to be one of the 24,000 deaths last week in Europe, no one has any real idea if it might be themđŸ€”
We have both been treated for tumours, I still have one and actually have no idea if the treatment has compromised our immune system in any way :wink:

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In order to be neutralising the andibodies need to recognise a specific region of the S1 spike protein called the receptor binding domain or RBD. In the small study I did, convalescent samples were just a little better at blocking binding than vaccination only sample (5-9% Vs 14% unblocked signal). We would set the cut off for a positive antibody response at 60%.

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Was that the earlier variants? The later omicron has a lot more spike protein to reconise, I liken it to trying to reconise a work of art from just a small piece or from several small pieces which would be easier.

Excess deaths figures prior to covid? Are they directly covid or co-morbidities?

Mine certainly was at the time due to the chemo and I suppose that is one of the main drivers of studying the gut microbiome, improving my metabolic health and studying foods. A doctor I spoke to the other day simply said a waist measurement should be less than half your height to stand a chance of being healthy.

You keep on trotting this out :roll_eyes::face_with_raised_eyebrow: neither you or I know if it is right or wrong, what if you and your internet searching specialist knowledge is wrong.
You would like to attribute all the deaths from covid and the ones happening just now to be anything other than covid to suite your theory that you think covid is just a cold and everyone should go out and embrace it and if anyone happens to pop their clogs it will be bugger all to do with you.
What waist measurement has to do with covid god only knows.

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It’s all variants, but in this case it was specifically the Omicron I was testing. Mostly it won’t matter where you stick the antibodies on the spike protein, if you don’t target the RBD then they don’t do anything to the virus.

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Suprised that Heleno hasn’t blessed us with her immunological insights.