To be honest Geoff you seem to be contradicting yourself. You state that the crowd control ray makes people feel that they are frying inside. Your quote from Wikipedia states it heats people up on the outside
What petition?
At 95GHz thatās all it can do as RF of that frequency will only penetrate the outermost layer of skin - of course once thatās burnt offā¦
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As I see this conversation (from the outside, so to speak) maybe this technology can be used to heat people up as a means to control and maybe it can be used as an advanced form of telecommunications carrier (Iām not technically minded).
But, my point is that there are many items used in āpeacefulā or āusefulā ways which can cause harm if mis-used.
Water is perfect for washing and drinking but not a good idea to submerge your head for a prolonged period.
X-rays, microwaves, lasers, etc. can be harmful if mis-used.
And so with 5G technology - just because it CAN be used in the way described does not mean that it WILL be used in this way.
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Agreed, @benvanstaveren can you edit? Itās a policy here, no ad hominem etc ok?
Well of course you couldnāt find him, he was on on patrol with the UFO brigade 
I havenāt read the entire thread but I would like to suggest that the OP has raised a question amongst members which is valid if a little alarmist. I suggest we proceed with the discussion but avoid personal attacks on the OP. Anyone not okay with that should not post again in this thread.
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Canāt you just go back to banging on about chemtrails Geoff?
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The Beeb used to show a public information film many years ago, about āclimate controlāā¦I canāt understand how people would that such a thing couldnāt possibly exist.
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You might want to check your bedside manner if you think calling someone a nutter is
Sorry James but I certainly donāt equate calling someone a conspiracy nut with calling them a nutter Use of the expression @@@@@ nut means feels strongly about or enjoying. You could call me a red wine nut We all are nuts about something
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I agree Ian, as you say ā just because it CAN be used in the way described does not mean that it WILL be used in this way.ā and perhaps I did not clarify very well what I am suggesting, which is that 5G used for communications is not going to be instantly harmful to anyone (although long term exposure will be). The problem is that the frequency and power can be raised rendering it possible to cause the effects sililar to the active denial system. If you think that this thought has not crossed the minds of those pushing this rollout then ask yourself the following - why is this being rolled out so fast without any testing or consultation - who is demanding this technology - what is the logic of a technology so reliant on numerous antenai and the cutting down of anything in its way - who has been out on the streets demanding 5G - who stands to gain?
The present level of mobile communications is very acceptable to us all and people need to realise that this 5G rollout is a trojan horse being sold to us as an improved communications tool and it has has a potentially very sinister side.
In Yorkshire one might respond to a questionable comment with the retort āyou need your bumps feltā - which would generally be taken as a mild rebuff - not sure this is miles different. As ever itās not so much the words as the sentiment and that is difficult to discern remotely through the computer.
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I started this topic in order to ask people to sign the petition against using 5G at glastonbury next month.
I really donāt care about what people choose to call me so please donāt worry about censoring peopleās posts or political correctness . As someone once said 'they know not what they do ā !
I have my views and am confident enough to communicate them in the hope that it may convince at least one person to take the time to do their own research.
Believe me, it would be much easier for me to sit in my lovely garden and drink a glass of Chardonnay .
Happy May Day to all
geoff
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Itās got to be the chinese/huawhotsit I reckonā:sunglasses:
Iām nuts about nuts which makes me a nut nut, I guess.
Nellie, the word ānutā was NOT used in the context you describe, the phrase l objected to, and still do is āNeeds to find themselves a little bit of professional helpā which, in my opinion is not calling someone a ānutā as in l am a passionate golfer i.e. a golf ānutā or a red wine ā nutā like you. If that were the case we would both need to find ourselves a little bit of professional help.
Given that pretty much no-one will have a 5G capable phone - so will not negotiate a 5G connection with the base station anyway, and any existing equipment will be sub 3GHz where, precisely, is the point?
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I guess the giant EE company who is instaling this, with all its resources at hand simply overlooked that Paul.
Or possible they are actually planning to experiment a little on those festival goers.
Who knows.
Yes because you do perform secret experiments when everyone knows you are doing it