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I was trying to avoid being as blunt as saying “none of the sources you quoted proves your point”! I doubt anyone - apart from the likes of Andrew Tate - believes

and I don’t think that would suit him economically, though I don’t know much about his economics!

More seriously, I wish capitalism hadn’t poisoned society to make people believe happiness is stuff rather than contentment.

I wish it were easier for women to stay at home and look after their children for as long as they wanted. But it’s not as simple as that, is it? It’s different in France to the UK: in France, kids get socialised earlier by going to whatever they call kindergarten here, and that’s a good thing from the kids I know.

I’m not sure it makes much difference. The Beeb interviewed a woman in Clacton yesterday. Nigel was brilliant, but, no, she hadn’t heard of the five million. To be fair to her, she thought it wasn’t right.

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As a former lifelong Labour voter, I assure you that my problems with Starmer have absolutely nothing to do with image; he worked with Labour Together to sabotage Corbyn, he lied about continuing with Corbyn’s commitments to renationalisation, student loans and everything else, but most of all he supported Israel’s genocide in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon (and anywhere else this toxic apartheid ethnostate gets involved with). I will never vote for a party that doesn’t oppose genocide, let alone facilitates one. I haven’t mentioned the most authoritarian curtailment of freedom of speech, because I’m frankly no longer sure I can mention it without getting arrested.

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It might had been better if you had actually said that - and, to an extent, I agree, he has been careful to avoid saying too much on that subject directly.

However it is reasonable to judge a man by the company that he keeps and it is also reasonable to try to peer through the sugar coated message to get to what a politician actually believe and might do if they got the chance (cf Neal Ascherson and his comments wrt how governments treat refugees).

Reform do say they will strengthen maternity rights but at the cost of weakening pay protection. I’m not sure that’s as progressive as it is meant to seem.

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As I wrote earlier, farage supporting, brexit voting friends who also have a relationship with some jewish women, told me specifically what is/has happened is not the definition of genocide and challenged me to come up with facts to back up that any genocide had occurred. It was at this point I realised no matter what evidence I could put forward about genocide, brexit being a total failure and farage being a grifting supporter of the extreme right wing rich and criminal elements they would simply dismiss it.

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I don’t know which is worse, that they are sincere in their (appalling to me) beliefs or that they are cynical grifters riding the populist wave.

And this is also true, but this is seen as acceptable, even desirable.

Yes, because tolerance would be such an awful thing.

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Count Binface seems to have got Nige worried. Reform have told activists working on the Manchester mayoral election to go to Clacton and help Nige to save his skin. They had good prospects of winning in Manchester.

I see Farage has made an all-out assault on the standards people and called it a kangaroo court. Then if he’s suspended he can say it was an establishment stitch up.

The thing is, you can’t really believe you’re talking about intolerance on the part of AM or me, because you’ll have read everything either has written, and you’re not disingenuous like that.

I think you’re beginning to realise - like Labour is beginning to realise - that LGBT ideology is both incoherent and self-contradictory. It stopped being about tolerance years ago.

Please stop harassing and harming us became
please let us use the pronouns we prefer became
you must use the pronouns we prefer became
we will define gender dysphoria otherwise than as a mental disorder became
you will not be allowed to work if you express a different opinion to ours.

The intolerance is all one-way.

By the way, in recent years the number of crimes against trans people has risen markedly. The authoritarian approach clearly isn’t working!

He’s just behaving like a poor version of Trump.

Tolerance is all rubbing along together within the decent norms of society. It’s helping my transgender friend move house, working beside my gay colleagues treating them just the same as everyone who isn’t gay (not noting that they are gay except when it becomes obvious for some reason because they are just people too).

While I wouldn’t necessarily express things quite as my breakfast cereal friend above, as an ordinary guy who just gets on with people, the LGBTQ+ crowd sometimes look an awful lot like the reform/restore crowd only more colourful and with less grifting.

But that’s the thing, his extreme language is exactly what was reinforced. Use of terms like “colonising” are not chosen without care and are widely used to stir up discontent.

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We have different ways to express ourselves. How do you know he’s not correct?

I think you think you know more about what I think than you really think

those “thinks” were chosen with care, I admit!

but if you don’t like “colonise”, then what about cultural hegemony, Gramsci style? To take over a complex Western society, revolutionaries couldn’t just launch a sudden military coup. Instead, they had to wage a “War of Position”, gradually taking over cultural institutions to change how the public thinks before seizing state power.

To be balanced, certain extreme strands of Christianity (almost exclusively in the West) are in the process of doing the same thing. You probably haven’t heard of the “seven mountains mandate”, but in reading about it, I learned it was very similar to Gramsci’s theory f cultural hegemony.

Doesn’t child benefit in the UK now stop after two kids anyway?

That’s if they were still married and not separated of course.

if the wife divorced (for sure), or separated (probably) and kept the kids then she could apply for them as dependents if she applies to social services for assistance.

Just guesswork on my part as to how that would work.

The cap was removed this April.

Trumpesk statement, he really rates himself doesnt he.

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Andy Burnham’s comment on the Clacton by-election:

‘Count Binface, you are carrying the hopes of the nation. Don’t let us down.’

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