In recent years I have found the Gov site very useful… for getting the docs together.
I found a copy of my Mum’s birth certificate… which I had never seen before…
Very emotional for me, as it gave me details of who her father was, and that had been a closely guarded family secret… the family tree begins to have some real roots now. 
Thanks everyone I now know about the gov site.
I don’t know anyone who ever voted for the National Front in uk…In Brittany my commune voted around 22% each for Marine Le Pen and Macron and not much more for one of the others…
It’s years since I voted in uk due to the blatant lies about WMD…I do know many who support Jeremy Corbyn due to him being far more on the side of the homeless and the hungry and also pro-Palestinian…
I read this today…”the chimera…”
Corby is being blackened, as many politicians of the Left, are, as a “terrorist sympathiser”, because he supports freedom organisations like the African National Congress, leader Nelson Mandela, branded a terrorist by apartheid-enthusiast Margaret Thatcher; and now Hamas and the PLO, both struggling to throw off the yoke of imperialist tyranny.
People forget Britain’s imperialist history. Cyprus was recently (1950s) a British colony, and only won its independence following the EOKA uprising in support of the 98% of Cypriots who favoured Union with Greece. I just missed being conscripted into the imperialist army sent Cyprus to ‘put the EOKA terrorists down like dogs’ .
Now it’s the Palestinians’ turn to pay the price of seeking liberty. They will surely succeed, and be embraced by their Israeli brother and sisters in a hard won and long-yearned-for peace between Arabs and Jews.
I admire and support Corby as a man of principle, like you do Helen. Many Jews are socialists and internationalists, there is a proud history of Jewish leadership and engagement with issues of social justice, equality and human rights going back in history to biblical times, up to the present time. I am in solidarity with all Jews of principle, and all who value the same freedom for non-Jews as they wish for themselves.
On a personal level, I’m with Barbara in this discussion - I couldn’t really be friends with any racist or other right-wing extremist.
What I do find really interesting though, living in France but with some UK etc contacts, is the national differences on the right, and the media treatment of them. The Front National, for example, seems to be just as racist/xenophobic as UKIP, but some of its economic policies (support for Hollande’s wealth tax for example) would be regarded as extreme leftism in some grubby corners of the UK press. The neo-fascists linked with the Italian 5-Star movement seem to be a peculiarly Italian kind of aesthete-fascist, more interested in cultural nationalism than either immigrants or economics - which fascinatingly fits well into Italian cultural history (futurism etc).
Not sure what it all means - but for somebody younger I’m sure there’s a PhD thesis in there somewhere…
I want the peace to be every where with every one.
But by banishing people from countries, as of course is what is happening…
there will never be peace. And in France that is the asperation of Le Pen.
Nationalise at all costs.
Not suggesting, by the way, that the vast majority of 5-Star are fascists - they’re not.
What are you suggesting?
Oh you are all coming out for the evening
Great post Peter. One of the things I find most interesting about Corbyn is that he inspired my sister to join the Labour Party. Most people would assume her to be pretty conservative - lives in a small village, home-owner, church-going pillar of the local community, etc - and for most of her life not involved in politics at all. When she got involved in Labour I knew there was something about Corbyn. It is, I think simply that he really is an honest man. (My sister is now chair of her local branch, by the way).
I see on the BBC tonight that migrants are targeting the port at Caen (Ouistreham) and have been for some considerable time. Images of lorries going through the town with migrants clinging to the back. How do the local French react to this? - do they demand that police clamp down or do they just accept it as modern France. It is plausible that some of the locals might be tempted to vote for Le Pen if they feel abandoned by their usual politicians? Interested in a local perspective on this.
If you vote for Le Pen you get the whole package!
This says more about your perception/thought processes around your sister than your belief in the current Labour Party Leader.
We use the ferry-port of Caen at Ouistreham often, and my impression is that it is mainly served by Brittany Ferries with twice daily crossings to Portsmouth. The port itself is quite small.
Ouistreham is a small, well-heeled and pleasant town with sea-side amenities, a few medium-sized hotels, and a lot of unremarkable and rural hinterland. Very unlike many other channel ports, and in my opinion vulnerable to immigrant ‘chancers’. Last time we crossed there was hardly any security apparatus, fencing, barriers etc.
We shall doubtless see how it goes. 
and in the spirit of this thread do you think it plausible that some of the locals could vote for Le Pen if they feel abandoned by mainstream politicians? I think its plausible and that the OP might have their part of an answer but I don’t have that local perspective.
By voting for Le Pen you are not going to stop immigrants trying to get to UK from Normandy.
that wasn’t your original question. My responses are to that.
People who vote for Le Pen;
1/ Those with a programmed right wing leaning.
2/ those who feel let down or abandoned by other parties.
Add to the list. Though if Le Pen copies Trump and starts chanting the mantra “Make France Great again” and “Putting France First” - this rhetoric and been shown to be popular with voters all over the place lately. Though its an observation not a desire of mine.
Are they?
perhaps it was a question which I already knew the answer to.My thoughts.
But interested to here from others how they think.
@vero. Completely agree with you! We are good friends with a large family and spent many an evening where we were/are completely surrounded by heated political debate. For the first few years we made like wallpaper in a very British way, but have slowly got over it and can now get involved in social debates in a more natural (i.e. French) way. They did us a great service!
I can think of 3 differents people I met.
The first one is my old neighbour Henry, who died few years ago. He was born in Algeria when it was a french protectorat. Fought in the war in Algeria for keeping it french. Well, even I didn’t agree with his ideas, I could at least understand his point of view. I’m lucky, I didn’t have his traumas
The second one was an ex colleague of mine, well set up in her little bourgeoisie, and realy scared about anyone who could screw her money (taxe she paid) being on the dole.
The third one, an other of my neighbour, who didn’t know until I told her that butterflies came out of a caterpillar and who think you can have more money from the allocation familiale if you’re wearing a veil ! I told her there were no tick boxe for that when you’re asking money to la CAF !