'Where's daddy?' daughter asked Erika Kirk

As someone who worked for me once said: “Sue, it is not enough to be nice. You have to be effective.”

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If you like Dr Richardson, take a look at Empty Wheel, she does a weekly YouTube with HCR and writes extensively on all the legal issues surrounding the current administration. Routinely scoops the MSM on all things legal.

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A saying I picked up in work many years ago was “I don’t care how hard you pushed the rock, all I care about is how far you moved it”.

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This right wing supremecy is, if not already, out of control.

News tonight, first headline: Robinson organised a right wing demo in London that is taking hold. And second: Kirk’s widow giving quite a vitriolic eulogy - yes, she is more than entitled to be upset, but I was quite taken aback by her tone.

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I know who I blame but I’m not allowed to say it.

Agreed. And the lie that she told her daughter? That kid will be damaged forever by, in her mind, being blamed for her father’s death.

Eh? Did I miss something? It seems improbable, but I’m always ready to learn.

“And I said, ‘Daddy loves you so much baby he’s on a work trip with Jesus so he can afford your blueberry budget,’” she continued.

Oh, come off it. Don’t import your anti-Christian culture wars nonsense into France : we’ve already got ample!

If that’s what she said (and I don’t know) why shouldn’t it be quoted and, if the poster wishes, criticised?

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@JohnH , I’ve been taken aback by the vitriolic response to the death of a political opponent.

It’s not exclusively American people, unfortunately, but it’s symptomatic of the current extremism of US politics. I think it’s horrible. I’m making an explicit criticism of left and right.

The worst of it is that it discourages moderate people from engaging in political debate. The debating space is left to those who shout the loudest.

I would hate that to become part of the usual European pattern. At the moment, as far as I can see, it’s the European far right which is almost exclusively unpleasant. I would not want the left to become radicalised and to descend to their level.

I suppose I may criticise and deprecate someone else’s views?

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Oh, come off it. Don’t import your anti-Christian culture wars nonsense into France : we’ve already got ample

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Oh, FFS. I was referring to her telling her three year old that Daddy was gone to pay for her blueberry habit. Thus blaming her.

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And scarring her for life? Do you really think that?

I appreciate it may have been a throwaway remark that didn’t receive your normal amount of thought.

Absolutely. Kids think that everything is their fault.

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Not if they’re brought up with care, they don’t.

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Me too. Certainly she must be distraught at the loss of her husband, but I found her manner very intimidating.

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Not if they’re brought up with care, they don’t.

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Not everything has to do with how children are raised. That is a simplistic take and doesn’t consider child development. Are you an expert in childrens’ brain development? If so, I stand corrected. If not, maybe do some research on your own. I’m not going to debate you.

This is from the Child’s Bereavement Center, but I found many other articles that say the same or similar:

Under 5 Years

Children of this age have a limited understanding of things around them. They tend to believe in magical things such as fairies and witches and think things are reversible like in story books. They also tend to blame themselves when a loved one has died or is dying. They may think it was their behaviour which caused this to happen and that they can do something to reverse the situation. Talking openly to them is vital to reassure them that it was not their fault and that they are loved.

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You seem so full of hate for someone whose views you disagreed with that you’re prepared to go after his widow of 24 hours and his daughter, and pick apart what she said to make a political point.

Can’t you see that that is exactly the sort of approach to politics that horrifies rational people?

PS I’ll continue to ignore the patronising parts of what you say. We generally try to avoid that sort of thing here, because it’s considered rude, however much we disagree with someone’s opinion.

I’m sorry that itself sounds patronising: I couldn’t think of a better way of expressing it.

I thought I was 78, but I’m obviously still “under 5”. I’d rather go on having a limited understanding and believing in magic.

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“Hate’“ is such an easy word to throw around these days. Your interpretation of my comment and my viewpoint is wrong. In fact I am concerned for her daughter. I worked with preschool children for 32 years, so I know a bit about brain development and I fully expect that her daughter will be damaged by what her mother told her. But you will obviously believe what you want to believe.

I will leave you with this:

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