Over 50, getting up to wee in the night

Or if you drink a bottle of blue curaçao like a friend of mine then it is turquoise :grin:

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Hi Pip

Like one or two others; we have / had similar issues. You say you have had prostate specific investigations or just some general investigations ? would you mind saying what they were.

I’ll tell you for why. I started to have issues with going to toilet but once middle of night, but after a while when i needed to go…i needed to go if you know what i mean. that in itself didn’t raise a flag with me; even went an got a blood test, and PSA levels were within tolerance for age (about 56 at that stage i guess).
It wasn’t until i had had anti-biotics for a bladder infection twice, and heading for 3rd, that i was referred to a specialist urologist.
He authorised an MRI scan and urine flow test. From the MRI he could see I had an enlarged prostate which was squeezing the urinary tract. The urine flow test confirmed that I was not emptying my bladder when going to pee. It’s called urinary retention, you think you emptied because your muscle memory tells you you have. After the flow test, and you think you emptied your bladder, they ultrasound your bladder for fluid and can see how much you retain. Urine also leaks causing the infection. In me it also caused multiple mini bladder stones.
It is very common in men , and certainly not necessarily prostate cancer by any means.
If they havent done an MRI or a urine flow test, then suggest you think about sorting them out.
I had TURP to sort it out, and sorted every single one of the issues…still have an enlarged prostate, but it doesn’t cause any issues at all.

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Thanks for that :+1: my prostrate exam is still too painful to talk about, as when it was being carried out the doctor had both hands on my shoulders and I was bent over a skip in an alleyway in Rennes, now I’m no expert, but I smell foul play, at least I think that’s what I smell,
Between you and me, I don’t think he was a real doctor, as my follow up RDV is in a park in Rennes, at 1am, :roll_eyes:

As long as you don’t have nightmares, but credit where credits due, not many would go for the replay.

I remember reading an article by the German Consumers’ Association that said that the only scientifically proven natural remedy is phytosterols, which is what my German urologist also recommended. I can’t give a link as it was a few years ago and in German. After the German product Azuprostat was for some unknown reason discontinued I used to take the product Prostex from Nature’s Best, which helped me, but they stopped delivering to France because of you know what. It has phytosterols and also saw palmetto. Am just trying Pygeum from Germany.

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It will be interesting to hear how you get on with it.

Solgar did a nice saw palmetto, I ahould think they are still doing it

I’m 78, do no exercise, drink at least a litre of water during the evening, and never get up to wee in the night. I put it down to lots of good @@x when l was young. I suppose it’s too late for you now?

C’est jamais trop tard pour bien faire!

And nothing wrong with your memory either :joy:

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As a frequent ‘commuter’ to the loo during the night, I worry in particular about falling and injuring myself, or crashing into something painful. This is through being only half awake, and/or unbalanced from getting out of bed too quickly etc. Intrigued, I Googled the subject and it seems that regular visitors to the loo at night are 41% more likely to have falls, and with 3 or more visits a night (that’s me!), the risks double.

I do also worry about waking my wife and dogs with my frequent trips…

Night lights in strategic places. We have them for our elderly dog, so we and she can see where she is.

I bought one of these for our next trip to France so I can safely and quetly find my way in gites we will stay in.

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One night I was awoken by a loud cry, and I found my wife lying on the kitchen floor having tumbled down twelve marble steps from the first floor. She had mistaken the landing for the bathroom. She refused to let me call the sapeurs-pompiers and she made her own way back upstairs to bed. In the morning we went to the Urgences and she was diagnosed with a broken finger. We both assumed that she was unscathed as she was not braced for a fall, rather like drunk drivers survive bad car crashes.

I would echo a previous poster about sleep apnoea. The moment I was diagnosed and provided with a CPAP machine I stopped getting up in the night.

I don’t know what all this nonsense about exercise is, same problem since I was 50 too, plenty of exercise tried all sorts of things but one thing is for sure don’t get yourself de-hydrated, you’ll just wake up with a headache. The good thing is I have just turned 70 and now all is OK. So just put up with it for 20 years!

I was under a specialist for years (suspected cancer, although eventually ruled out by biopsy). It had started with the wish to go followed by then ability to go, although I was full. The eventual relief was increasing my intake of water to 2ltrs a day (just clear water, all else on top of this). It sounds odd but this bright me back from a truely awful time to normality. Not saying it is a cure but it put me right.

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David - each to their own, and pleased your in depth scientific analysis led you to the ‘nonsense’ conclusion :grin:

I guess everyone finds their own solution to the problem, but this may be interesting for you:

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Lots of fun here, Pip! But let’s be serious - at 50 you are not ‘old’. But you are at the perfect age for late-onset diabetes. Peeing and thirst are the first symptoms. I suggest you should get a simple blood-sugar pinprick test done asap, either at your medecin or local pharmacy. Bon courage!**

I am over 50 - waaay over 50. The condition is named nocturia. It got to the point that I was headed for the loo every hour or two, day and night. Sleep cycle destroyed. Did some research and discovered corn silk. Used in the far east for centuries. Provided relief, but not a cure. I now sleep from around 23h00 to 04h00, then back to bed for however long - usually around 07h00.
I found corn silk capsules on French amazon.

Quite right from what is written by Don about corn silk it lowers blood sugar levels by increasing insulin. Avoiding sugar and some other foods that raise blood sugar like corn in the first place.

Type 3 diabetes is the name given by many to Alzheimers so a good reason to cut back.

Ordered some saw palmentto so see how that goes, also supposed to be good for re growing hair!

I do plenty of excercise so not sure if that helps as I only go once per night.