The Benefits of Vaccination (with thread drift...)

So am I peter…I delved into it and followed the trail and tried to make sense of it…contrary to your assertion that I “choose to try and support my questionable opinion based as fact”…I don’t…

I read the NEJM letter…I saw the retraction that made those reporting on it look bad…I watched a video of a doctor trying to correct his mistake…

Well as a bit of an inconsequential pleb and Virtual peasant that’s WAYYYYY over my head…

All I have to guide me is my heart and a desire to protect our children from harm…I appreciate that those who don’t have children and many men who have no idea about the female reproductive system (one consultant who shall remain nameless who almost removed one of my daughter’s most intimate parts had I not intervened)

There’s a conversation still to be had…it makes no sense to me that many are so gleeful and predatory in nature that they can’t see the wood for the trees and mercilessly go on the attack…

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It’s a really crap and tenuous connection…

Last week there were over a million marching in London U.K…did mainstream media cover it…??? no…

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Over a million…really, it must have been a different march I saw the videos of, thousands yes but over a million … And the papers and TV all covered it.

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Well that’s a positive that it was at least acknowledged that thousands were there…Aerial footage showed many more…

I noticed that one mainstream outlet only covered it to say 3 were arrested…and one used a photo of an old demonstration to infer that the march was about something it wasn’t about…

I’ve no idea how many of the million plus there were anti vaccine but the videographers on the ground that i was following on the day were singing “another brick in the wall”…how about you…???

Even a stopped, broken clock is right twice a day. Lots of otherwise delightful intelligent people are totally wrong about some things and sometimes ghastly. Plenty of really awful people occasionally say or do something nice…

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Brilliant reminder that VAERS entries are sometimes a bit…unreliable

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It would have to be a very sad individual who would want to take the piss like that…

By all accounts from doctors trying to file reports into VAERS (if they’re even aware of it)…it’s a cumbersome process…

It also minimises the very real awful side effects being experienced by many people…whole groups of people were just deleted off Facebook…

Many are finding each other again on the likes of telegram…endless “covid 19 vaccine” injuries…”…lots of Bell’s palsy which you would think is better than death or paralysis until you watch the videos of the people affected…

Personally my heart goes out to them knowing they were never given fully informed consent nor warned of the risks nor told that it’s an ongoing experiment…and knowing that so far all the “vaccine” developers/manufacturers are immune from prosecution…

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Good to see that LinkedIn have reinstated Dr Robert Malone with a personal apology from one of their CEOs…

And back to Canada where Canadian doctors and physicians are being horribly censored too…I don’t really expect anyone to watch this…

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Evidence Helen, Evidence …

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No, because it’s bullshit !

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We will see Peter…we will see…

All of this is against The Nuremberg Code…I fully expect that this is where it will end up and as I have immense empathy and compassion for my fellow human beings I can at least always say that I tried my hardest to be on the right side of history…(Or her story)

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I placed the following on "ducks in a row thread but thought it more apt here:

So @Helen6 you are a body pierced tattooed lady which entails having needles, ink and who knows what permanently engraved into the only skin suit you were blessed with at birth yet you are antivax, interesting.
A quick look on google brought up this comment:

Bad infections may result in long-term antibiotic care, but usually they won’t cause any long-lasting health problems. However, though rare, it’s possible to get a condition such as hepatitis or HIV from a tattoo needle.

It seems it is rare but not unknown to have bad long term effects from a tattoo, not dissimilar to the very few cases of adverse effects from the covid jab.

Do you not think that you don’t practice what you preach?

Discuss.

I don’t see how the two are related John…??? :thinking:

In my day you had to be 18 to even walk into a tattoo studio and just below that age would have required a parent to be there and the signing of a parental consent form…

Me neither, apart from some (not all) vaccines are given by injection hence a hypodermic needle, and tats are done with a totally different type of needle

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One scientific explanation for some of the blood clots and therefore cardiac issues also.
Seems it is how the jab is given, most will be fine as we know but occasionally some may have an issue.

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‘Some’ or even a ‘small minority’ of Canadian physicians. Ignoring that the vast vast majority of physicians around the world are pro-vaccine and say that many of these claims, and the various other ones, are just plain inaccurate.

How is that this tiny group of people, who have to rely on conspiracy websites, are right and the rest, the huge majority, are wrong?

How is it that the ‘mainstream media’, hundreds of different media organisations, for the mostpart don’t report on this? Are they all part of some awful cabal? And if they are how on earth are they managing to keep their thousands of employees quiet on the subject?

And how is that, barring a couple of days of feeling a bit under the weather, hundreds of millions of people have now had one of the vaccines without any ill effects?

Even if you ignore the huge amount of evidence to the contrary, it’s just all so massively unlikely, isn’t it?

I would ask the moderators to review and perhaps delete the links to the dangerous conspiracy websites but I fear this would only fuel your belief that you/those people are being ‘silenced’.

I fear you’re too far down the rabbit hole, Helen. But please know this: you’re being had, plain and simple, by a bunch of charlatans who enrich themselves by spreading dangerous lies and misinformation online for revenue from clicks (and for many of them, sales of
dodgy potions) that has resulted in you putting yourself and your family at risk of harm from a virus.

The negative effects of a Covid infection are well known. I hope to goodness that you manage to avoid it or, if you do get it, that it will only be a mild infection and you won’t, like many, suffer from long Covid.

Please take care of yourself.

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I think you would be surprised Tom at just how many physicians doctors virologists etc are being silenced but I guess when people don’t want to take the time to listen to any broadcast that isn’t on YouTube then that’s up to them…

Just yesterday I listened to an interview with a French geneticist expressing her concerns but as it wasn’t on YouTube I’ll refrain from posting it here…

Please don’t worry about me and my family as your concern for us is misplaced…indeed one of my daughter’s became worried about her 18 month olds series of high temperatures and persistent cough so called 111…over a week later and a negative pcr test that she regrets putting him through the negative test still wasn’t showing on the system so she called her own doctor and was waiting for them to call her back…

I heard my grandson coughing over the phone so said that it sounded like a “drosera” cough and suggested that while she waited for a call back to start homeopathic drosera every 15 minutes for an hour and 3 times a day thereafter…

By the time she did eventually get a call back his cough had completely stopped and no appt was necessary…

I am not saying to anyone not to get the vaccine but I am saying and will continue to say that for children and young people the risks far outweigh any benefits as their risk is vanishingly small and the potential harm to young people is becoming ever more apparent on a daily basis for those of us who care about our youngsters…

And I will always advocate for fully informed consent which is still lacking in the currentjy coercive environment…

Edited to add that I think I already had SARS cov 2 right at the start of this in early 2020 and feel I have natural immunity…as some doctors are calling for pre-vaccine screening to prevent cytokine storms etc then I’m guessing there is some description of blood titre test that would show up natural antibodies and I guess the memory in T-cells also…

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I watched that too John and was going to post it here but saw that you had already posted it…I am following Dr Robert Malone and found that video in amongst the comments …

He may well have something there and it would be such a simple thing to implement…

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Then someone would have to own up to an error and they simply dont do that in the modern world, they would rather club together and carry on doing the thing incorrectly.

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