So you were vaccinated?
I feel totally at sea with you now.
No absolutely not Janeā¦Iām reading back through some of my comments to see why you might think that as I think Iāve been pretty clear about my line in the sand and my unwillingness to participate in what is still a clinical trial under an EUAā¦
Itās been raining heavy today so I watched a 4 hour presentation by Dr Richard Flemingā¦an interview with a USA doctor (edited to add name of USA doctorā¦ ) Dr Been and Dr Tess Lawrieā¦and evidence presented to the German lawyer Reiner fuellmich by Dr David Martin about gain of function research and patent fraudā¦
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Helen it would have to be the largest clinical trial in human history and the outcome has been a resounding success to date.
I wish governments would give out stats each day as the do Covid to show just how many die of other ailments. Its a very big number. The Covid jab may keep some alive passed when they should have thrown off their mortal coils but they will go at some point.
I noted the other day that other causes of mortality have over taken Covid.
I just worry for you as the Covid virus can be so much worse for someone un vaccinated and the way the Delta variants are increasing by double in a matter of weeks I am concerned
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Thanks for your concern John 
but as I was trying to point out to Tom concern for me personally is misplacedā¦
Iām concerned about the huge numbers of people who have received the vaccines without fully informed consent and are now experiencing horrific side effectsā¦I want to find help for those peopleā¦
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I agree Johnā¦and it hurts my heart how many have been denied access to treatmentā¦how many have died aloneā¦how many family members were denied the right to hold a loved ones hand as they diedā¦my partner said the other day that as horrific as the experience was of battling the authorities and losing his mum in an inadequate care home before Covid 19 that heās relieved in a way that the loss happened pre covid 19 and they at the very least were all able to be there with herā¦
Yes itās a very big numberā¦
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As a concerned engineer I undertook as much research as I could before agreeing to take the vaccine. I listened to many hours of antivaxers and it didnt take much to debunk the dangerous words coming from them. Unless you have some strong evidence I can view its very clear they are not taking notice of the real dangers of this virus and the more horrific side effect that is death.
And there are just as many concerned doctors and scientists and virologists and heart specialists and epidemiologists who think the same way ā¦that death is irreversible and they set out to do everything they could to design a protocol that could save as many lives as possible ā¦
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All I know is that if I tally up my personal social circle and work contacts I know around 1000 people who have been vaccinated with zero side effects.
I know six people who have had covid, three were fine, one was under the weather for a couple of months, one has had a long recovery time and the other is unable to return to work a year later.
The benefits of vaccination seem pretty clear.
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And hereās some extra food for thought. Pun fully intended.
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Before I underwent Chemo I looked everywhere for information on side effects and found plenty including class law suits all hailing from the USA. I had several meetings with the Prof looking after me and it was the same message, they have to mop up the problems when people refuse chemo and some of those that are deemed cured then look to try and sue the very people who cured them all hailing from one country the USA.
The toxicity of chemo has plenty of known issues so levels are carefully controlled and monitored and are huge compared to the very few issues from Covid vaccines.
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AcadƩmie nationale de mƩdecine suggesting that France should make Covid-19 compulsory.
Izzy x
https://www.academie-medecine.fr/obligation-vaccinale-contre-la-covid-19-un-devoir-de-sante-publique-et-un-engagement-democratique/
Probably a conspiracy theorist somewhere that will suggest the studies were sponsored by Winalot 
Izzy x
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I donāt know woof what you are on woof about
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Winalot is the chunks of biscuit, isnāt it? So delicious, I loved them as a child (also spillerās shapes and - best of all - bonios).
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Oh no - the black charcoal biscuits were best.
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Yes I saw that and just wondered why anyone raw feeding their dogs and picking up after them needs to be reminded to wash their handsā¦I would have thought that was common senseā¦
The antibiotic misuse/overuse in both animals and people is a long standing problem but as itās many years since either my collies or me have used antibiotics then I donāt think Iām contributing to that particular problemā¦
Just another one of those articles against the natural world that those of us trying to live in it get subjected to every now and again 
Do you feed your dogs meat that is antibiotic free though? I know we have touched on this discussion before but I just cannot get my head round feeding a ārawā diet that involves factory farmed meat. It just seems counter productive. And the alternative is (presumably) feeding ones dogs free range ethically reared meat. Which presumably costs a fortune?
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Yes agreed that the USA does seem to still have methods of bringing lawsuitsā¦
With the covid gene therapy/vaccine rollout though I am struck by the sheer number of open letters and FOI requests and lawsuits being filed across all of Europe and U.K. and Canada and Australia and everywhere around the worldā¦
Itās why I think that this will eventually become Nuremberg 2ā¦
Yes agreed there is a really strict code when trying to get approval (as opposed to an EUA) of new drugs and part of that is knowing exactly whatās in itā¦what amountsā¦the results of animal trials etcā¦and people entering those trials are given full disclosureā¦(for instance my partner who is in a trial for a new treatment for prostate cancer)
Dr Robert Malone feels there is a need for a halt and to look for a next generation mRNA vaccineā¦he really feels that this shouldnāt be given to children and young people and that informed consent is crucialā¦that the trials are being improperly conducted and that the data collection systems are inadequateā¦
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Yes I know it keeps coming up for us as a topic of discussion in one of those viscious (can never spell that and spell check is making a mockery of my attempted corrections) circlesā¦
My gang are currentjy on Jaim.gelā¦and green tripe from Germany (plus other minces) and air dried liver and heart and various other air dried offalā¦
I buy free range eggs for them but who knows reallyā¦???
I always have Burns in reserve as itās a brand I know from U.K. and they do use organic produceā¦
I just do the best I can for themā¦
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So the tripe and liver / mince etc - are they free range / outdoor reared etc?
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