The Benefits of Vaccination (with thread drift...)

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I worry more about me catching the Delta variant than me passing it on… which is why I keep my distance… especially from people I know are not vaccinated… and who (possibly) do not take precautions… especially if they are not masked.

However, I wear my mask to try and stop me passing-on anything I might have (unknowingly) hidden about my person… :wink:

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“… in Intensive Care, 90% are unvaccinated, 10% are vaccinated often with other diseases which explains the seriousness” he explained.
For the 10% of people vaccinated, co-morbidities are therefore often the cause of the transfer of patients to critical care. “We know that vaccination dramatically reduces the risk of death or extremely serious complications. It saves lives, families, a lot of people, and we have to do it, ”insisted Martin Hirsch.

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It’s looking like Justin Trudeau might be implicated too…and is the reason he dissolved Parliament and called an election…He even sued parliament and the speaker of the house which is all very odd…:thinking:

I’ve watched several presentations by Dr David E Martin (the anti-trust patent lawyer) …the latest was with vaccine choice Canada…

This was in June…

Whilst many hundreds of hours worth of presentation could be taken up with the numerous unsafe products withdrawn resulting in billions of dollars worth of fines…(I’ve only just come across rezulin…!)

A timely reminder…same script same actors have we learned anything…???

Had to take my youngest daughter to A&E in Perigueux* and couldn’t go in with her because of covid, about an hour after she went in a car arrived bringing an evidently very ill young man about 20, they brought a wheelchair out to the car park, and started doing triage there in the tent in my earshot, he isn’t vaccinated he has covid and they were taking him off to be intubated they told the driver.

*My daughter has disgusting tonsils and is having them whup out tonight. She’s had several goes of tonsillitis, this is the first post vaccine, no I don’t see a link.

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Maybe why some react badly and some have no side effects…???

My sincere hope is that both your daughter and the young man make a full recovery…:heart:

Oh honestly FFS .

Her daughter probably will and the young man may. Or may not.

He’s around 20 years old…we can’t know what circumstances got him there…we don’t know anything about his life history…I’m sending only love to everyone…

I think we do, catching the virus…
He was in those short trousers they wear and t shirt, looked like someone who spent time outside and doing sports, from the look of him I was expecting a sports injury, or something stupid and booze related, not covid. He was very obviously very very ill, it was horrible. I had another 4 odd hours sitting outside the triage tent to think about it, he was definitely the illest looking person who went in and, apart from my daughter who is 19, probably the youngest.

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Did he have anyone with him…??? A parent or any family even if they had to wait outside…???

Why are covid vaccinated parents still not allowed to go in with their kids…???

He had whoever drove him there, who left when he was told the younger one would be admitted. No idea what their relationship is. I only stayed on the car park because I didn’t know whether they would be keeping my daughter in. They don’t let anyone in unless it is 1 parent or other responsible adult with a child. When they say child it must be under 15 or 16 I suppose. There weren’t any children of that age.

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Thanks for that, says it all really.

Indeed it does, obviously with the passage of time will come better solutions. Always easy to be wise after the event.

And then natural immunity/cross immunity is better than vaccine immunity…

There are of course various interpretations…

The Highwire yesterday was as usual brilliant and Del has been talking about the possibility of ADE not just this year but way back last year…

Among his guests yesterday was Dr Ryan Cole…there are thousands of deaths reported but as he was saying there is only one autopsy in the literature…(plus now the German pathologist) and Dr Ryan Cole (ex military and pathologist) was talking about how new products should follow the French legal system and be guilty until proven innocent…

After much public outcry about trying to silence and discredit him He has been nominated to the health board…

Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but for many the benefits are most definitely not outweighing the risks and especially for our children…it was the case at the beginning and remains the case today…

I think we should just stop pause think and enable and allow the Hippocratic oath of first do no harm and allow and enable evidence based medicine instead of “scientism”…and fb fat chequers and pharma funded MSM should just quit ad hominem attacks and straw man argument

What is your job Helen? (I may have asked you before, if so I’m sorry but I have forgotten the answer).
I wouldn’t want to do my job unvaccinated, personally.

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