Wearing wigs or shaving hair
Just for a reminder, catholique women used to wear a veil to go to church. All religions have their customs. Look at the boudist monks. Faith is something we canât criticize, we are all human being and we should be able to do what we feel confortable with, regardless stupid prejudices.
hummm remind me.
Was it to go to church or when they were in church?
oh it looks like someone may have made a mistake!!!
Actually in all the attacks in Europe âŠâŠterriost attacks I do not think that there was any one of them
in a costume of any kindâŠjust normal clothing.
Ban it but ban people making racist remarks of all kinds.
No Boris Johnson does not have the right to say what he likes!!!
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Yes the shaving hair is a bit extremeâŠbut not that common now I believe, thankfully. Some of the rules have a sensible basis way back when hanging around in a desert with no fridges, but all a bit redundant now. And yes orthodox Jewish women are a bit constrained, but reform Jews are pretty free to do what they like.
My neighbours in Antwerp were three Ashkenazi brothers and their wives and their getting on for 30 children. Very frum, always in trad kit and the wives wore wigs. The brothers talked to me at work but the wives never spoke to me because I am just a goyishe shiksa.
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He has to decide whether he wants to be a comedian or a politician. Not very good in either role if you ask me, but probably less dangerous as a comedian.
On the issue he raised, you canât just pick on one kind of fancy dress. You would have to ban Orthodox Jews, the Pope, Father Christmas, Mickey Mouse and cross-dressing, to name but a few.
Of course, if you go around looking unconventional, you have to accept the consequences. Iâm still trying to find out how someone who refuses to show their face can get a passport or any other photographic ID.
Religion is strange. It seems that you have to do difficult, but totally pointless things to prove how devout you are.
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yes Mike what you say makes sense.U nfortunately the politicians do not.
And maybe some judgesâŠ??? The wigs and robes seem a bit peculiarâŠI think powdered wigs were all the rage when people shaved their heads to deal with head liceâŠx 
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Me Mam 'ad a nit comb, 'twas 'ellish painful 
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I agree very much with the main thrust of your post, Mike. But not entirely your take on religion. Not all religious people are as gullible as you suggest. Some Muslim women find the sexual objectification of women by men objectionable. Many western women take a similar view, but are âused to itâ and generally tolĂ©rate it, with weary resignation. In Victorian times society was extremely prudish, and women were expected to âcover upâ from neck to foot: it was shocking to expose an ankle, and even furniture legs were covered in the name of decency.
The choices Muslim women make are as intelligent, thoughtful and perceptive as those of their western or non-Muslim counterparts. No doubt some disagree with the cultural norms of their society, but they canât all be seen as simple-minded mediaeval sheep, itâs too simplistic and disrespectful IMO.
What does happen at passport control re I.D. passport photo, does the guy on the desk have to call a lady to check it?
Yes, the womanâs facial ID is checked in a private room, and by a woman officer. Itâs not a big deal, and it causes no inconvenience to other passengers. Bear in mind that most burka-clad visitors entering UK are from Saudi Arabia or the Arab Emirates and travel First Class. They carry big spending money.
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It takes all sorts of people to make the world.
Take away this mix from London, for instanceâŠwhat is left?
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Not really a cultural norm, is it Peter. The majority of Muslim women donât cover their faces. So I think that, in many cases, itâs more of a political protest. Especially those ladies who like to get on television and explain why it is so important to them.
I am old fashioned and am shocked at the way some western women (and often underage girls) present themselves in public. But most men wouldnât want to be seen with a girl dressed like a hooer, so maybe too much makeup and bare flesh is also a defence mechanism in itâs way.
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Only after he has had a good leer at the photo. Passport porn!
Only after he has hade a good leer at the photo, Bill. Passport porn!
Excellent points, Mike. As to cultural norms, wearing a burqa in some Middle Eastern countries would not be regarded as a deviation from (or a violation of) the norms of behaviour, although women who do wear it are outliers on the normal curve of distribution.
In Europe, burqa-wearing is seen by some as a violation of our norms, but not - perhaps - by the majority needed to get it banned.
Banning the burqa would perhaps violate another of our norms, which is tolérance of déviation as long as it is harmless to others. 
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But it does seem a bit sinister to our eyes, especially as it might be a disguise for a terrorist with a concealed weapon. I seem to remember a similar fuss about youths wearing âhoodies.â
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